Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 04:54. Çàãîëîâîê: House Taddy Liverpool Sold Me A Puppy With A Bad Heart

We purchased Liver Pool from Tanya Cheremenceva of
Ukraine Dnepropetrovsk Kennel name House Taddy. Liver Pool was to be our new addition to the show ring and them become a part of our breeding program. Sadly LiverPool was diagnosed with a grade 3/6 systolic murmur at the left cranial sternal border with gallop sound and pulmonic stenosis, mild hypertrophied.. And any good breeder knows you do not want to breed this into your lines. I contacted the breeder on many occasions about this situation and she had told me he was a healthy puppy. Refusing to believe what my veterinarian had diagnosed him with. So Tanya insisted that I take him to a Canine Cardiology and have an echocardiogram done and that she would replace the puppy. So now I have the price of the puppy my first vet visit and now a Cardiologist fee that I had done to satisfied the breeder because she didn't not believe my vet. I have done all she asked and now she wont reply to my emails.I believe she knowingly sold me a sick puppy and who knows how many she has sold before. I had also contacted Tanays veterinarian DR Zelikova Irina Viktorovna and they will not reply back.

Ìû ïðèîáðåëè Ëèâåðïóëÿ ó Òàíè ×åðåìåíöåâîé ñ Óêðàèíû, ã. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê. Ïèòîìíèê "Õàóñ Òàääè". Ëèâåðïóëü äîëæåí áûë áûòü íàøèì íîâûì ïîêîëåíèåì äëÿ øîó è ÷àñòüþ íàøåé ïðîãðàììû ðàçâåäåíèÿ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ó íåãî áûëî äèàãíîñòèðîâàíû ñèñòîëè÷åñêèå øóìû 3/6 â ëåâîé ãðóäíîé êðàíèàíàëüíîé (ïåðåäíåé) ÷àñòè ñ ðèòìîì ãàëîïà è ëåãî÷íûì ñòåíîçîì, ñëàáîé ãèïåðòðîôèåé ... È ëþáîé õîðîøèé çàâîä÷èê ïîíèìàåò, ÷òî íå õî÷åòñÿ ââåñòè â ñâîè ëèíèè òàêèå áîëåçíè. ß ìíîãî ðàç ñâÿçûâàëàñü ñ çàâîä÷èêîì èç-çà ýòîé ïðîáëåìû, è îíà îáúÿñíÿëà, ÷òî îí áûë çäîðîâûì ùåíêîì, îòêàçûâàÿñü âåðèòü ìîåìó âåòåðèíàðó, êîòîðûé äèàãíîñòèðîâàë áîëåçíü. Ïîýòîìó Òàíÿ íàñòîÿëà, ÷òîáû ÿ îòâåçëà åãî â Êëèíèêó Êàðäèîëîãèè Ñîáàê è ïîëó÷èëà òàì êàðäèîãðàììó (÷òî áûëî ñäåëàíî) è òîãäà îíà îáìåíÿåò ùåíêà. Íà ñåãîäíÿ ÿ ïîòðàòèëà - ñòîèìîñòü ùåíêà, ïåðâûé âèçèò âðà÷à è ñ÷åò èç Êàðäèîöåíòðà, ãäå ÿ ïîáûâàëà äëÿ óäîëåòâîðåíèÿ ñâîåãî çàâîä÷èêà, ïîòîìó ÷òî òà íå âåðèëà ìîåìó âåòåðèíàðó.
ß âûïîëíèëà âñå, î ÷åì ìåíÿ ïðîñèëè, íî òåïåðü îíà íå õî÷åò îòâå÷àòü íà ìîè ýëåêòðîííûå ïèñüìà. ß âåðþ, ÷òî îíà çàâåäîìî ïðîäàëà ìíå áîëüíîãî ùåíêà è êòî åãî çíàåò, ñêîëüêèõ åùå îíà òàê ïðîäàëà ðàíüøå. ß òàêæå ñêîíòàêòèðîâàëàñü ñ Òàíèíûì âåòåðèíàðîì äîêòîðîì Çåëèêîâîé (?) Èðèíîé Âèêòîðîâíîé è îíà òàêæå ìíå íå îòâåòèëà.

MaximumBull
Kathleen Wellner (USA)
Email if you have been scammed:
maximumbull@gmail.com
http://www.maximumbull.org<\/u><\/a>

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 12:45. Çàãîëîâîê: Knut äîïóñê â ðàçâå..

Knut
äîïóñê â ðàçâåäåíèå ðåãóëèðóåòñÿ íàöèîíàëüíûìè ïðàâèëàìè. Ïîêà ÷òî íà óðîâíå ÔÖÈ èç ïðîáëåì çäîðîâüå ïîìíþ òîëüêî ÷òî-òî ïðî çàïðåò èñïîëüçîâàíèÿ ñîáàê ñ òÿæåëîé ôîðìîé äèñïëàçèè (Å). À åñëè íà íàöèîíàëüíîì óðîâíå ÷òî-òî êîíêðåòíî íå çàïðåùåíî, òî... õîçÿèí-áàðèí.
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à 77 ìåñòî âñå æå èç 96 ïîðîä [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò] , à ïðåâàÿ äåñÿòêà: íîðôîëê òåðüåð, ìàëàìóò, øîòëàíäñêèé äèðõàóíä, ìèíèáóëü, áóëü-òåðüåð, ïèí÷åð, øèïïåðêå, êàâàëåð êèíã ÷àðëüç ñïàíèåëü...

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 15:04. Çàãîëîâîê: soraz ïèøåò: ß ñëîâ..

soraz ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

ß ñëîâî âçÿë ñ ïîçèöèè ìåäèöèíû, à íå êàê ñóäüÿ

Òàê ÿ Âàñ è ñïðîñèëà , êàê âðà÷à, à íå ñóäüþ. Ñ ìåäèöèíñêîé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ ïðè òàêîì, ïóñòü ïðåäâàðèòåëüíîì äèàãíîçå, ÷òî íóæíî äåëàòü?

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 15:21. Çàãîëîâîê: Knut äèàãíîç íà äà..

Knut

äèàãíîç íà äàííûé ìîìåíò íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ óãðîæàþùèì æèçíè, ñîáàêà ìîæåò âåñòè íîðìàëüíóþ ñîáà÷üþ æèçíü äèâàííîãî ëþáèìöà, êàê íîðìàëüíûé ôðåí÷. Êîíå÷íî ìàðàôîí áåãàòü íå íàäî è çàãîðàòü â +40. Íèêàêèõ ìåäèöèíñêèõ ïîêàçàíèé ê ýêñòðåìàëüíûì ìåðàì íå âèæó. Îòïðàâèòü æèòü â õîðîøóþ ñåìüþ, ïðåäóïðåäèâ î âîçìîæíîé ñèòóàöèè ñî çäîðîâüåì.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 16:15. Çàãîëîâîê: soraz ïèøåò: Íèêàêè..

soraz ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Íèêàêèõ ìåäèöèíñêèõ ïîêàçàíèé ê ýêñòðåìàëüíûì ìåðàì íå âèæó. Îòïðàâèòü æèòü â õîðîøóþ ñåìüþ, ïðåäóïðåäèâ î âîçìîæíîé ñèòóàöèè ñî çäîðîâüåì.

À ñ òàêèì äèàãíîçîì ìîæíî êàñòðèðîâàòü åãî èëè ëó÷øå âîçäåðæàòüñÿ? È åùå ñêàæèòå ïîæàëóéñòà ïîä êàêîé àíåñòåçèåé êàñòðèðóþò ñîáàê â ÑØÀ?

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 16:59. Çàãîëîâîê: Knut â Øòàòàõ ïðè ê..

Knut
â Øòàòàõ ïðè êàñòðàöèè èñïîëüçóåòñÿ îáùàÿ àíàñòåçèÿ

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 17:16. Çàãîëîâîê: soraz ß Âàì î÷åíü ï..

soraz ß Âàì î÷åíü ïðèçíàòåëüíà çà êîìåíòàðèè. [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò] [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò] [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò]

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 17:22. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen ïèøåò: îñí..

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

îñíîâíàÿ ïðè÷èíà, èç-çà êîòîðîé ÿ êóïèë èç-çà ìîðåé, ñîñòîÿëà â òîì, ÷òîáû èìåòü íîâûå ëèíèè, êîòîðûå íèêàêîé àìåðèêàíñêèé çàâîä÷èê åùå íå èìåë. Ñîçäàòü ìîè ñîáñòâåííûå Çäîðîâûå ëèíèè èç Åâðîïû è ÑØÀ äëÿ øîó ïîêàçà.

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Ìû ïðèîáðåëè Ëèâåðïóëÿ ó Òàíè ×åðåìåíöåâîé ñ Óêðàèíû, ã. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê. Ïèòîìíèê "Õàóñ Òàääè". Ëèâåðïóëü äîëæåí áûë áûòü íàøèì íîâûì ïîêîëåíèåì äëÿ øîó è ÷àñòüþ íàøåé ïðîãðàììû ðàçâåäåíèÿ.

Ãäå ìîæíî óâèäåòü ñîáàê âàøåãî ðàçâåäåíèÿ?ß íà ñàéòå òàê è íå íàøëà ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ âàøèõ ñîáàê. Ýòîò âîïðîñ çàäàâàëñÿ íåîäíîêðàòíî,Âû åãî èãíîðèðóåòå .
TABURGE ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

È åù¸ ïîòîìó,÷òî ñîáàêó ñ òàêèì ïðîèñõîæäåíèåì è ïîëó÷åííîãî â òàêîì èíáðèäèíãå ,Âû íå êóïèëè áû òàê ä¸øåâî â Åâðîïå. Ìèíèìóì 3 500 åâðî áåç âûáîðà.

Ñîãëàñíà ïîëíîñòüþ.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 22:01. Çàãîëîâîê: Reg. Number Dog Nam..

Reg. Number Dog Name
NP24911402 Maximumbull Envy Me
NP23064004 Maximumbull Humphrey Bogart
NP23064001 Maximumbull Vampire Piggy Gaz
NP24204501 Maximumbull's Lemon Drop
NP16841407 Maximumbull's Majo Baby

Reg. Number Dog Name
NP06214803 Maximumbull
NM92199401 Maximumbull A Touch Of Grace
NP23718301 Maximumbull Expensive Hobby
NP23718302 Maximumbull Hot Topic
NP03555301 Maximumbull I'm To Snazzy
NP06214804 Maximumbull Irrisistabull
NM85751403 Maximumbull Miss O Mighty
NP06214808 Maximumbull Moxie
NP06214802 Maximumbull Nelson
NP23718303 Maximumbull Once Upon A Time
NP03555305 Maximumbull Sambuca
NP04255605 Maximumbull Stigmata
NP04255602 Maximumbull Urban Legend
NP06214805 Maximumbull's Darwin of Mespo
NM93730403 Maximumbull's Lil Emma
NM93730402 Maximumbull's Lilemmit
NM86716601 Maximumbulls Aunt-Bea
NP12866501 Maximumbulls Bounty Hunter
NM92199406 Maximumbulls Madison Avenue
NP06214801 Maximumbulls Magic Moment
NP00789605 Maximumbulls Nalla Pokie Dot
NM92199402 Maximumbulls Nawty But Nice CD RN

Here are some of the dogs i have bred.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 27.07.10 22:11. Çàãîëîâîê: The dogs i have bree..

The dogs i have breed have no baring on the matter of me buying a puppy that is unhealthy.
This is an email from Tanya stating he is for show.


-------Original Message-------

From: Alex
Date: 3/16/2010 8:13:59 AM
To: jwellner@neo.rr.com
Subject: Re: Regarding LIVERPOOL

The photos of kid are done on March, 1.- to him 1 month. Tomorrow I can do
new photos - if my information for you has interest. Kid - fat men. Good
appetite. Very merry in grain. I did a 1 vaccination of .cherez 10 days is
the second vaccination.A puppy has little hernia. I can delete it is a not
problem. 10 minutes and it is not present.Puppy it is possible otpralyat' at
the beginning of April. A puppy will have a complete vaccination - genealogy
of FCI is kleymo- vet documents.

I have an experience of dispatch of puppies in many countries of the world.
There is a lot of my animals - resident in America .v February I sent one
kid to Spain. One kid lives in Denmark and has a good career. A charming
girl lives in Gon Konge.

My broker talks that we can send a kid to Chicago or Detroit.you can meet a
kid in one of these cities.

You look attentively on genealogy of kid. Ancestors are there marked
coloured. This kid is very well done for the ancestor famous - LEIBOLLS
OLFERT And MERSEDES.

THIS KID WILL BE GOOD FOR SHOW. A tail very interesting for a kid. On a
priest there is a black spot is creates visibility of the shortened corps on
a photo.A tail is white and well closes a priest.

Tanya Cheremenceva
Ukraine
Dnepropetrovsk
8050 169-32-35
www.bulldogs.dp.ua

H.taddy@mail.ru
alex@bulldogs.dp.ua
----- Original Message -----
From: "PuppyFind.com" <buyer@puppyfind.com>
To: <alex@bulldogs.dp.ua>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:30 AM
Subject: Regarding LIVERPOOL


> Hello,
> Can you send me more photos of this male his face and front of his
> chest,side and tail and photos of parents. Can you also send a video of
> his movement so I can see his gate. I'm looking for one I can show. Dose
> he have a hernia? If so will you fix it before he would be shipped. Can
> you ship to Cleveland international airport? When can he be shipped?
> Thank you,
> Kind regards,
> Kathleen

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 28.07.10 06:05. Çàãîëîâîê: STAVR ïèøåò: Ãäå ì..

STAVR ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Ãäå ìîæíî óâèäåòü ñîáàê âàøåãî ðàçâåäåíèÿ?ß íà ñàéòå òàê è íå íàøëà ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ âàøèõ ñîáàê.

Ñâåòà, åñòü. Âîò ññûëêà.
http://www.maximumbull.org/OurBullies.html<\/u><\/a>

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 28.07.10 06:06. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen À Âû ïîëó÷è..

Kathleen À Âû ïîëó÷èëè âèäåî Ëèâåðïóëÿ è ôîòîãðàôèè, êîòîðûå õîòåëè?

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 28.07.10 13:40. Çàãîëîâîê: I'm not sure wha..

I'm not sure what you are asking?

Kathleen and you get videos and photos of Liverpool, who would?

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 28.07.10 13:54. Çàãîëîâîê: At this point it doe..

At this point it doesn't matter what i say. You ask questions that have no relevance to the matter of buy a dog who has a heart condition . And the Breeder/Seller will not pay back my money of $2064.00 or reply to me personally about settling this . She only post things are her web site but never contacts me. I'm sure because of all this no one will want to buy foreign dogs because of the bad relations Tanya and Alex has caused. And im sure once they have burned enough buyers they will run them selfs into the ground. Its only a mater of time they will see the wolf in sheep's clothing.
I am done taking about this its going no where.


At this point it doesn't matter what i say. You ask questions that have no relevance to the matter of buy a dog who has a heart condition . And the Breeder/Seller will not pay back my money of $2064.00 or reply to me personally about settling this . She only post things are her web site but never contacts me. I'm sure because of all this no one will want to buy foreign dogs because of the bad relations Tanya and Alex has caused. And im sure once they have burned enough buyers they will run them selfs into the ground. Its only a mater of time they will see the wolf in sheep's clothing.
I am done taking about this its going no where.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 28.07.10 14:06. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen Ñêàçûâàåòñÿ..

Kathleen Ñêàçûâàåòñÿ ÿçûêîâîé áàðüåð... Íå ìîãó ïîíÿòü êîíêðåòíî î ÷åì Âû ïèøèòå.
Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

I'm not sure what you are asking? Kathleen and you get videos and photos of Liverpool, who would?

Îí-ëàéí ïåðåâîä÷èê ïåðåâåë Âàøó ïåðåïèñêó ãäå Âû ïðîñèëè âûñëàòü ôîòî Ëèâåðïóëÿ â ñòîéêå è âûðàçèëè ñâîå æåëàíèå ïîñìîòðåòü åãî äâèæåíèÿ íà âèäåî.
Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

At this point it doesn't matter what i say. You ask questions that have no relevance to the matter of buy a dog who has a heart condition . And the Breeder/Seller will not pay back my money of $2064.00 or reply to me personally about settling this . She only post things are her web site but never contacts me. I'm sure because of all this no one will want to buy foreign dogs because of the bad relations Tanya and Alex has caused. And im sure once they have burned enough buyers they will run them selfs into the ground. Its only a mater of time they will see the wolf in sheep's clothing. I am done taking about this its going no where.

Êåòëèí, õî÷ó ÷òîáû Âû ïîíÿëè.  ýòîé ñèòóàöèè íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ ÷åì Âû çàíèìàåòåñü, ñêîëüêî ó Âàñ ñîáàê, ñêîëüêî ñîáàê ðîäèëîñü â Âàøåì ïèòîìíèêå è ò.ä. Ýòà ñèòóàöèÿ ëè÷íî äëÿ ìåíÿ î÷åíü ïðîñòàÿ, âåðíåå ïðîñòîå ðåøåíèå ýòîé ñèòóàöèè. Çàâîä÷èê îáÿçàí âåðíóòü Âàì äåíüãè è íå âûñòàâëÿòü íèêàêèõ äîïîëíèòåëüíûõ óñëîâèé. Ýòî ëè÷íî ìîå îòíîøåíèå êî âñåé ýòîé ñèòóàöèè.
Íàäåþñü, ÷òî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ ïîñòðîåíû äîñòàòî÷íî ïðîñòî, ÷òîáû ïîíÿòü ñìûñë. [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò]