Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 04:54. Çàãîëîâîê: House Taddy Liverpool Sold Me A Puppy With A Bad Heart

We purchased Liver Pool from Tanya Cheremenceva of
Ukraine Dnepropetrovsk Kennel name House Taddy. Liver Pool was to be our new addition to the show ring and them become a part of our breeding program. Sadly LiverPool was diagnosed with a grade 3/6 systolic murmur at the left cranial sternal border with gallop sound and pulmonic stenosis, mild hypertrophied.. And any good breeder knows you do not want to breed this into your lines. I contacted the breeder on many occasions about this situation and she had told me he was a healthy puppy. Refusing to believe what my veterinarian had diagnosed him with. So Tanya insisted that I take him to a Canine Cardiology and have an echocardiogram done and that she would replace the puppy. So now I have the price of the puppy my first vet visit and now a Cardiologist fee that I had done to satisfied the breeder because she didn't not believe my vet. I have done all she asked and now she wont reply to my emails.I believe she knowingly sold me a sick puppy and who knows how many she has sold before. I had also contacted Tanays veterinarian DR Zelikova Irina Viktorovna and they will not reply back.

Ìû ïðèîáðåëè Ëèâåðïóëÿ ó Òàíè ×åðåìåíöåâîé ñ Óêðàèíû, ã. Äíåïðîïåòðîâñê. Ïèòîìíèê "Õàóñ Òàääè". Ëèâåðïóëü äîëæåí áûë áûòü íàøèì íîâûì ïîêîëåíèåì äëÿ øîó è ÷àñòüþ íàøåé ïðîãðàììû ðàçâåäåíèÿ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ó íåãî áûëî äèàãíîñòèðîâàíû ñèñòîëè÷åñêèå øóìû 3/6 â ëåâîé ãðóäíîé êðàíèàíàëüíîé (ïåðåäíåé) ÷àñòè ñ ðèòìîì ãàëîïà è ëåãî÷íûì ñòåíîçîì, ñëàáîé ãèïåðòðîôèåé ... È ëþáîé õîðîøèé çàâîä÷èê ïîíèìàåò, ÷òî íå õî÷åòñÿ ââåñòè â ñâîè ëèíèè òàêèå áîëåçíè. ß ìíîãî ðàç ñâÿçûâàëàñü ñ çàâîä÷èêîì èç-çà ýòîé ïðîáëåìû, è îíà îáúÿñíÿëà, ÷òî îí áûë çäîðîâûì ùåíêîì, îòêàçûâàÿñü âåðèòü ìîåìó âåòåðèíàðó, êîòîðûé äèàãíîñòèðîâàë áîëåçíü. Ïîýòîìó Òàíÿ íàñòîÿëà, ÷òîáû ÿ îòâåçëà åãî â Êëèíèêó Êàðäèîëîãèè Ñîáàê è ïîëó÷èëà òàì êàðäèîãðàììó (÷òî áûëî ñäåëàíî) è òîãäà îíà îáìåíÿåò ùåíêà. Íà ñåãîäíÿ ÿ ïîòðàòèëà - ñòîèìîñòü ùåíêà, ïåðâûé âèçèò âðà÷à è ñ÷åò èç Êàðäèîöåíòðà, ãäå ÿ ïîáûâàëà äëÿ óäîëåòâîðåíèÿ ñâîåãî çàâîä÷èêà, ïîòîìó ÷òî òà íå âåðèëà ìîåìó âåòåðèíàðó.
ß âûïîëíèëà âñå, î ÷åì ìåíÿ ïðîñèëè, íî òåïåðü îíà íå õî÷åò îòâå÷àòü íà ìîè ýëåêòðîííûå ïèñüìà. ß âåðþ, ÷òî îíà çàâåäîìî ïðîäàëà ìíå áîëüíîãî ùåíêà è êòî åãî çíàåò, ñêîëüêèõ åùå îíà òàê ïðîäàëà ðàíüøå. ß òàêæå ñêîíòàêòèðîâàëàñü ñ Òàíèíûì âåòåðèíàðîì äîêòîðîì Çåëèêîâîé (?) Èðèíîé Âèêòîðîâíîé è îíà òàêæå ìíå íå îòâåòèëà.

MaximumBull
Kathleen Wellner (USA)
Email if you have been scammed:
maximumbull@gmail.com
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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 05:34. Çàãîëîâîê: Çäðàâñòâóéòå Kathlee..

Çäðàâñòâóéòå Kathleen !

×èòàëà âàøó èñòîðèþ íà ôîðóìå ÊÑÓ. Ñèòóàöèÿ êîíå÷íî î÷åíü íå ïðèÿòíàÿ, íî äëÿ íà÷àëà õîòåëîñü áû óçíàòü ëè÷íî îò âàñ, âñå ëè ùåíêè êîòîðûå ïðåäñòàâëåíû íà âàøåì ñàéòå http://www.maximumbull.org<\/u><\/a> â ðàçäåëå Puppies we sold/Ùåíêè ìû ïðîäàëè (ïåðåâîä ÷åðåç ãóãë) http://www.maximumbull.org/siteerror404.html<\/u><\/a> âàøåãî ðàçâåäåíèÿ?

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Hello Kathleen!
I read your story on the forum KSU. The situation is certainly not very pleasant, but first wanted to know from you personally whether all the puppies that are represented on your site http://www.maximumbull.org<\/u><\/a> topic Puppies we sold / Ùåíêè ìû ïðîäàëè (translated via Google) http://www.maximumbull.org/siteerror404.html<\/u><\/a> your breeding?

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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 11:58. Çàãîëîâîê: Some of the puppies ..

Some of the puppies on this page are mine are Tatiana Revenko, Lidia Korablina and Elena Kozhevnikov i had sold a long time ago. Why do you ask?

Íåêîòîðûå ùåíêè íà ýòîé ñòðàíèöå, ÿâëÿþòñÿ ìîè Òàòüÿíà Ðåâåíêî, Ëèäèÿ Êîðàáëèíà è Åëåíà Êîæåâíèêîâà ÿ ïðîäàë î÷åíü äàâíî. À ïî÷åìó òû ñïðàøèâàåøü?

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 13:07. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen ïèøåò: À ï..

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

À ïî÷åìó òû ñïðàøèâàåøü?

Óòî÷íþ ñâîé âîïðîñ. Êîíêðåòíî ýòîò ùåíîê (îáîçíà÷åíî êðàñíûì) <\/u><\/a> âàøå ðàçâåäåíèå? Ëè÷íî âû åãî ïðîäàëè?

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Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Why do you ask?

I will specify the question. Particularly this puppy (it is designated red) <\/u><\/a> your breeding? Personally, you have sold it?



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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 13:47. Çàãîëîâîê: Ìîæåòå ëè âû ñêàçàòü..

Ìîæåòå ëè âû ñêàçàòü ìíå, ÷òî îíà ñêàçàëà âàì? Çäåñü âû ìîæåòå ïðî÷èòàòü â äðóãîé äîëæíîñòè http://uaksu.forum24.ru/?1-0-0-00000079-000-0-0-1278798140<\/u><\/a> She Wants Me ïðîäàòü "Ëèâåðïóëü çà $ 1500,00 è ïåðåäàòü åé îò íåãî äåíüãè . Ýòî áåçóìèå ÿ íå ìîãó ïðîäàòü ùåíêà ïîðîê ñåðäöà. ×òî äåëàòü, åñëè îí äîëæåí áûë óìåðåòü âñêîðå ïîñëå ýòîãî è íîâàÿ ñåìüÿ ïîòðàòèëè âñå äåíüãè. ß õîòåë áû îòïðàâèòü åãî ê íåé, íî îò òîãî, ÷òî ÿ ñêàçàë ýòî íå âàðèàíò. Îíà áîëüøå, òî äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü â "Ëèâåðïóëü íàéòè äîìà, à åñëè îíà õî÷åò ïðîäàòü åãî, òî îíà ìîæåò ýòî äåëàòü. Íî ÿ äóìàþ, íèêòî íå áóäåò ïëàòèòü ìíîãî äåíåã çà áîëüíîé ùåíîê.

ß áóäó ãîòîâ ñäåëàòü äâå âåùè. (1.) Ïîëó÷èòü âñå ñâîè äåíüãè îáðàòíî â Ëèâåðïóëü è âåòåðèíàð ñáîð îáùåé Òàíÿ Îóý ìåíÿ ñîñòàâëÿåò $ 2064,00 èëè (2.) ß õîòåë áû ïîëó÷èòü âûáðàòü ùåíêà øîó áåç êàêèõ-ëèáî ðàñõîäîâ ñî ìíîé èç ðàçâåäåíèÿ Àíóê â.ä. MESTREECHTENEERKES (Ô. - Int. CH. VIKING äþ Fiacre Ìîíïàðíàñ õ Int.Ch. Ëèêå MESTREECHTENEERKES â.ä.) õ ÎÈÑ. CH. Daulokke * ñ Luffee (Ô. - CH. Liebolls Muffee Daulokke õ * ñ Äå Ja Vu) Ëèâåðïóëü "äîëæåí áûë áûòü äëÿ îòîáðàæåíèÿ åå â ÑØÀ è ïî ïðèâëå÷åíèþ íîâûõ ëèíèé äþéìà

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 13:50. Çàãîëîâîê: Yes it went to a lad..

Yes it went to a lady in California Terri A. Henderson the breeder was Elena,

Äà, ïîøåë ê äàìå â Êàëèôîðíèè Òåððè À. Õåíäåðñîí çàâîä÷èê Åëåíà,

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 14:09. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen ïèøåò: Ìîæ..

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Ìîæåòå ëè âû ñêàçàòü ìíå, ÷òî îíà ñêàçàëà âàì?

ß ñ Òàòüÿíîé íå îáùàëàñü.
Ïîæàëóéñòà ïèøèòå ñâîé òåêñò íà àíãëèéñêîì ÿçûêå, ìû áóäåì ñòàðàòüñÿ ñàìè åãî ïåðåâåñòè. Âàø îíëàéí-ïåðåâîä íà ðóññêèé ÿçûê íåïîíÿòåí.

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Kathleen wrote:

öèòàòà:

Can you tell me what she told you?

I did not communicate with Tatiana.
Please write your text in English, we will try to translate it themselves. Your online translation into Russian is not clear.



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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 15:27. Çàãîëîâîê: Bonalee ïèøåò: Êîíê..

Bonalee ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Êîíêðåòíî ýòîò ùåíîê (îáîçíà÷åíî êðàñíûì) âàøå ðàçâåäåíèå? Ëè÷íî âû åãî ïðîäàëè?

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Äà, ïîøåë ê äàìå â Êàëèôîðíèè Òåððè À. Õåíäåðñîí ...

Ìíå òðóäíî âàì âåðèòü. 2010/07/09, íà ðîññèéñêîì ôîðóìå "Ôðàíöóçñêèé áóëüäîã" áûëî îïóáëèêîâàíî ñîîáùåíèå âëàäåëèöû ýòîãî áóëüäîãà http://frenchbulldog.borda.ru/?1-10-0-00000082-000-100-0#054<\/u><\/a>
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Ïèøó ñâî¸ ìíåíèå, êàê íàáëþäàòåëÿ ïðîèñõîäÿùåãî ñî ñòîðîíû.
Åñëè âû ïîçâîëÿåòå íà ñâîåì ñàéòå âûñòàâëÿòü ôîòî ÷óæèõ ùåíêîâ è ïðîäàâàòü èõ êàê ñâîèõ, ýòî íå äåëàåò âàì ÷åñòè. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ñëó÷àÿ, ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ âîçíèêëè áîëüøèå ñîìíåíèÿ ÷òî âñ¸ î ÷åì âû ïèøèòå ïðî Ëèâåðïóëÿ, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðàâäîé. Ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî îí âàì íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ è âû õîòèòå ëþáûì ñïîñîáîì âåðíóòü äåíüãè èëè ñäåëàòü çàìåí. Ìíå î÷åíü æàëü ýòîãî ùåíêà. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ íè÷åì íå ìîãó ïîìî÷ü.

×òî áû ó âàñ íå áûëî íèêàêèõ ïîäîçðåíèé íà ìîé ñ÷åò, õî÷ó ñðàçó íàïèñàòü, ÷òî ìîåé ëè÷íîé çàèíòåðåñîâàííîñòè â âàøåé ñèòóàöèè ñ Òàíåé íåò. Ñ Òàòüÿíîé ×åðåìåíöåâîé ìû íå îáùàåìñÿ. Ñîáàê èç ïèòîìíèêà House Taddy ó ìåíÿ íèêîãäà íå áûëî è íåò.

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Bonalee wrote:

öèòàòà:

Particularly this puppy (it is designated red) your breeding? Personally, you have sold it?

Kathleen wrote:

öèòàòà:

Yes it went to a lady in California Terri A. Henderson...

It is difficult to me to trust you. 2010/07/09, in the Russian forum "French Bulldog", the message of the proprietress of this bulldog has been published http://frenchbulldog.borda.ru/?1-10-0-00000082-000-100-0#054<\/u><\/a>
This puppy, female, name Darnibu Umnica-Krasavica. To date, her 6 years. And it is this picture, which is on your site, she had received when she bought it. She has bought not from you.

I am writing an opinion as an observer of your case.
Featuring a photograph of another puppy on a personal Web site, you are doing is not fair. This is - deceit.
After that, personally I have great doubts that all of what you write about Liverpool is the truth.I suppose that you do not like Liverpool, you want in any way to return the money or make substitutions.
I am very sorry for this puppy. Unfortunately I can not help.

That you would not have any suspicions into my account, wish to write at once that my personal interest in your situation with Tanej is not present. We do not communicate With Tatyana Cherementsevoj. Dogs from nursery House Taddy at me never was and is not present.


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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 16:24. Çàãîëîâîê: ­I bought Liverpool f..

*PRIVAT*

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 16:26. Çàãîëîâîê: Bonalee ïèøåò: Åñëè..

Bonalee ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Åñëè âû ïîçâîëÿåòå íà ñâîåì ñàéòå âûñòàâëÿòü ôîòî ÷óæèõ ùåíêîâ è ïðîäàâàòü èõ êàê ñâîèõ, ýòî íå äåëàåò âàì ÷åñòè. Ïîñëå ýòîãî ñëó÷àÿ, ëè÷íî ó ìåíÿ âîçíèêëè áîëüøèå ñîìíåíèÿ ÷òî âñ¸ î ÷åì âû ïèøèòå ïðî Ëèâåðïóëÿ, ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðàâäîé. Ïðåäïîëàãàþ, ÷òî îí âàì íå ïîíðàâèëñÿ è âû õîòèòå ëþáûì ñïîñîáîì âåðíóòü äåíüãè èëè ñäåëàòü çàìåí. Ìíå î÷åíü æàëü ýòîãî ùåíêà

Ïîääåðæèâàþ íà âñå 100 [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò] .

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 11.07.10 16:50. Çàãîëîâîê: I helped sell puppie..

I helped sell puppies for these breeders this puppy was Elena Kozhevnikov. It was many years ago i could have posted the wrong photo of the puppy they where all out of the same litter and looked similar. She would send me photos of the puppies to sell on my site a long time ago. I never once said that all the puppies listed on my site where mine. It says puppies i have sold these are all the photos i was sent from the breeders. I am not the one who is dishonest i have all the facts from my vet. I have been told that Ukraine dose not have the technology the vets do in the US. So tell me how she would no for sure that Liverpool didn't have a bad heart. I say to you as these breeders what they think of me if i have ever done wrong to them or if i helped them when i was asked. Tatyana Revenko, Lydia Korablina and Elena Kozhevnikova
I swear to god i am not lying i am telling the truth Liverpool has a bad heart!

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 02:41. Çàãîëîâîê: Bonalee Òàòüÿíà, ïîë..

Bonalee Òàòüÿíà, ïîëíîñòüþ ñîãëàñíà! Âî ïåðâûõ òàêèå äåëà ðåøàþòñÿ â ïðèâàòå ìåæäó ïîêóïàòåëåì è ïðîäàâöîì! À âî âòîðûõ ñäàåòñÿ, ÷òî âñå ïèñüìà íå áåç ïîìîùè êîãî òî ñ Óêðàèíû ( óæ áîëüíî ðüÿíî, ñî çíàíèåì äåëà "ïðîõîäÿò" ïî âñåì ïîðîäíûì ôîðóìàì, è ïî÷åìó òî íà ÔÐÅÍ×Å òèøèíà? Ìîæåò ïîòîìó ÷òî òàì ó÷àñòíèê Ðåâàç Ðåâàçîâè÷? à òàê æå ãëàâíîìó ôîðóìó ÊÑÓ), êàê áóäòî "ïîäñàæèâàþò" Òàòüÿíó ×åðåìåíöåâó - êîíêóðåíò âèäàòü êîìó òî. Íî ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - äåéñòâèòåëüíî î÷åíü æàëêî ìàëûøà Ëèâåðïóëÿ....îí íå âèíîâàò â òîì, ÷òî íå óãîäèë âëàäåëüöó è âñåìè ñïîñîáàìè îò íåãî èçáàâëÿþòñÿ....
Íî ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå òî, ÷òî ïî÷åìó òî ïîêóïàþò ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì ùåíêîâ â Ðîññèè è Óêðàèíå, ïîòîìó ÷òî î÷åíü äåøåâî â ñðàâíåíèè ñ öåíàìè íà ùåíêîâ â òîé æå Àìåðèêå - áåðèòå ùåíêîâ ó ñåáÿ â ñòðàíå è âñå ïðåòåíçèè íà ìåñòå, áåç ïóáëè÷íîãî çàãàæèâàíèÿ!
È åùå - ïðè áîëüøîì æåëàíèè ÿ ìîãó ñäåëàòü ËÞÁÓÞ ñïðàâêó ñ ËÞÁÛÌ çàêëþ÷åíèåì! Òàê ÷òî "áîëåçíü" Ëèâåðïóëÿ âîïðîñ âñå æå ñïîðíûé....

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 05:21. Çàãîëîâîê: All my dogs are from..

All my dogs are from or out of Russian,Belorussia Hungary and Ukraine I was trying to bring in new blood lines 9 years i have bought dogs from your country because i felt they where good. I love the dogs i have bought from Europe. Do you not think there are no good dogs in your country? And i do not want to just get rid of Liverpool he is a good and pleasant puppy. But as a breeder and exhibitor can not keep him. I do love all my dogs better then i do most people they never do bad thing and love unconditional.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 13:02. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen íà íàøåì ôî..

Kathleen íà íàøåì ôîðóìå çàïðåùåíî âûâåøèâàòü ëè÷íóþ ïåðåïèñêó! Âàøå ñîîáùåíèå çàêðûâàåòñÿ. Åñëè âû è äàëüøå áóäèòå ïðîäîëæàòü âûâåøèâàòü ýëåêòðîííóþ ïåðåïèñêó, ÿ âûíóæäåíà áóäó çàêðûòü âàì âõîä íà íàø ôîðóì!

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Kathleen àt our forum it is forbidden to hang out personal correspondence! Your message is closed. If you and further awake to continue to hang out electronic correspondence, I will be compelled to close to you an input on our forum!

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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 13:20. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen ïèøåò: ß ï..

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

ß ïîìîãàëà ïðîäàòü ùåíêîâ îò ýòèõ çàâîä÷èêîâ......

Kathleen, ïîæàëóéñòà, íå âìåøèâàéòå â ýòó èñòîðèþ äðóãèõ çàâîä÷èêîâ.

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Kathleen wrote:

öèòàòà:

I helped sell puppies for these breeders this puppy.........

Kathleen, please do not interfere in this story other breeders.



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 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 13:38. Çàãîëîâîê: Ñîíàòà. Äî÷ü Ñòèíãà...

öèòàòà:

Ñîíàòà. Äî÷ü Ñòèíãà. Áîëüíîå ñåðäöå, ïðîñëóøèâàëèñü ïîñòîÿííûå õðèïû çàäíåé äîëè ñòåíêè ë¸ãêîãî ñ ïðàâîé ñòîðîíû. Íå äîæèëà äî 2 ëåò. ß èìåëà íàäåæäó, ÷òî ýòà äåâî÷êà ñòàíåò íàì ðàäîñòüþ íà ìíîãèå ãîäû. È íå ïëàíèðîâàëà ïîõîðîíèòü å¸ ñòîëü ðàíî. Ìíå ñòûäíî çà ñâîþ ñòðàíó. Î ÷¸ì ðàçãîâîð? Êåòëèí ïðåäîñòàâèëà íåîñïîðèìûå ôàêòû, äîêàçàòåëüñòâà íåèçëå÷èìîé áîëåçíè áóëüäîãà. Äîêàçàòåëüñòâà íåîñïîðèìû. Çà çäîðîâüå äîëæåí íåñòè îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çàâîä÷èê. Íåò ÷åãî ñâàëèâàòü âèíó íà çàâîä÷èêîâ ðîäèòåëåé ýòîãî ùåíêà. Ìîêðîé ïå÷àòè íå ñòàâÿò íà âåòåðèíàðíûõ çàêëþ÷åíèÿõ â ìíîãèõ øòàòàõ Àìåðèêè è Êàíàäû. Íè÷åãî íå èìååò çíà÷åíèÿ êðîìå îäíîãî. Çàâîä÷èê íå æåëàåò íåñòè îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà çäîðîâüå ùåíêà. Ïî ôàêòó.

Íå ìîãó ïèñàòü íà ôîðóìå ÊÑÓ, òàê êàê ÿ òàì â "áàíå", ïîýòîìó îòâå÷ó çäåñü. Ìåíÿ óìèëÿåò , êàê îäèí òîðãàø,ïûòàåòñÿ ïðèêðûâàòü äðóãîãî òîðãàøà..
×òî êàñàåòñÿ Ñîíàòû.. äà îíà ïîãèáëà ðàíî. Çà êîòîðóþ ÷åëîâåê îñòàëñÿ åù¸ äîëæåí äåíåã çàâîä÷èêó. Íî íå îò òîãî,÷òî ñåðäöå áûëî áîëüíîå,ïðîñòî õîçÿéêà òàê õîòåëà ïîëó÷èòü ùåíêîâ,÷òî âñ¸ âðåìÿ îòêëàäûâàëà îïåðàöèþ ïî ïèîìåòðå.À ñîáàêó ïðîñòî íàïðîñòî íóæíî áûëî ïðîîïåðèðîâàòü,ãëÿäèøü è æèâà áûëà áû äî ñèõ ïîð. È åù¸, ó Ñîíàòû åñòü íå òîëüêî ïàïà, íî è ìàìà.
È ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå, êàê ÷åëîâåê îñâåäîìë¸í î äîêóìåíòàõ, âîò íåò òàì ìîêðîé ïå÷àòè íè â Àìåðèêå,íè â Êàíàäå è áàñòà..

Cubik ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Íî ñàìîå èíòåðåñíîå òî, ÷òî ïî÷åìó òî ïîêóïàþò ñ óäîâîëüñòâèåì ùåíêîâ â Ðîññèè è Óêðàèíå, ïîòîìó ÷òî î÷åíü äåøåâî â ñðàâíåíèè ñ öåíàìè íà ùåíêîâ â òîé æå Àìåðèêå - áåðèòå ùåíêîâ ó ñåáÿ â ñòðàíå è âñå ïðåòåíçèè íà ìåñòå, áåç ïóáëè÷íîãî çàãàæèâàíèÿ!

Òàíü,â ñàìóþ òî÷êó. [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò]

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 14:13. Çàãîëîâîê: Kathleen ïèøåò: Âñ..

Kathleen ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Âñå ìîè ñîáàêè èç Ðîññèè, Áåëîðóññèÿ Âåíãðèÿ è Óêðàèíà, ÿ ïûòàëàñü ââåñòè â ëèíèè ñâåæèõ êðîâåé 9 ëåò.........

Ïî ïîâîäó ïîêóïêè ùåíêîâ â Ðîññèè, Áåëîðóññèè, Âåíãðèè è Óêðàèíå ÿ âàì âåðþ.
Íà âàøåì ñàéòå íåò ðîäîñëîâíûõ âàøèõ òðåõ ôðàíöóçîâ, íåò èíôîðìàöèè î èõ ïîêàçàõ íà âûñòàâêàõ, íî åñòü ôîòî ùåíêîâ êîòîðûõ âû ïðîäàâàëè è âû ñàìè ïðèçíàëèñü ÷òî ýòî ùåíêè áûëè íå âàøåãî ðàçâåäåíèÿ. Âñ¸ ýòî ìåíÿ áîëüøå óáåæäàåò â ìûñëè ÷òî âû íå çàâîä÷èê à ïåðåêóïùèê! È íîâûå êðîâè âàì íóæíû íå äëÿ ñîáñòâåííîãî ðàçâåäåíèÿ, à äëÿ âûãîäíîé ïåðåïðîäàæè.
Èçâèíèòå, åñëè ìîè ñëîâà âàì êàæóòñÿ îáèäíûìè, íî ÿ äåéñòâèòåëüíî òàê äóìàþ.

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Kathleen wrote:

öèòàòà:

All my dogs are from or out of Russian,Belorussia Hungary and Ukraine I was trying to bring in new blood lines 9 years.......

Regarding the purchase of puppies in Russia, Belarus, Hungary, Ukraine, I believe you.
On your website there is no information on the origins of your three French bulldog, there is no information about their shows at the exhibition, but there are pictures of puppies, which you are selling, and you yourself admitted that puppies are not your breeding.
All of this convinces me more in mind that you are not the breeder, You resells of puppies
And new blood are necessary to you not for own cultivation, and for favourable resale.
Sorry, if my words to you seem insulting, but I am valid so I think.


P.S. Ïåðåâîä íà àíãèéñêèé âûïîëíåí ÷åðåç Îíëàéí-Ïåðåâîä÷èê / Translated to english made through Online Translator

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 14:38. Çàãîëîâîê: Cubik ïèøåò: ñäàåò..

Cubik ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

ñäàåòñÿ, ÷òî âñå ïèñüìà íå áåç ïîìîùè êîãî òî ñ Óêðàèíû ( óæ áîëüíî ðüÿíî, ñî çíàíèåì äåëà "ïðîõîäÿò" ïî âñåì ïîðîäíûì ôîðóìàì, è ïî÷åìó òî íà ÔÐÅÍ×Å òèøèíà?

Òî ÷òî âñå ïðîèñõîäèò íå áåç ïîìîùè Óêðàèíû, 100%. [âçëîìàííûé ñàéò]

Cubik ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

............ Òàê ÷òî "áîëåçíü" Ëèâåðïóëÿ âîïðîñ âñå æå ñïîðíûé....

È ìåíÿ áåðóò áîëüøèå ñîìíåíèÿ. Êàê ùåíêó ñ òàêîé ñåðüåçíîé âðîæäåííîé ïàòîëîãèåé (åñëè âåðèòü Kathleen) óäàëîñü ïåðåæèòü ñòîëü äîëãèé ïåðåëåò.

Cubik ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

ñàìîå ãëàâíîå - äåéñòâèòåëüíî î÷åíü æàëêî ìàëûøà Ëèâåðïóëÿ....îí íå âèíîâàò â òîì, ÷òî íå óãîäèë âëàäåëüöó è âñåìè ñïîñîáàìè îò íåãî èçáàâëÿþòñÿ....

Èìåííî ùåíîê, ýòî åäèíñòâåííîå êîãî äåéñòâèòåëüíî áåçóìíî æàëü âî âñåé ýòîé èñòîðèè è â äóøå ùåìèò îò áåñïîìîùíîñòè. Âåäü âñå ïðåêðàñíî ïîíèìàþò, ÷òî íå îäèí ôîðóì, íå îäèí èíòåðíåò ðåñóðñ íå ðåøàò âîçíèêøóþ ïðîáëåìó.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 14:54. Çàãîëîâîê: STAVR ïèøåò: Íå ìîã..

STAVR ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

Íå ìîãó ïèñàòü íà ôîðóìå ÊÑÓ, òàê êàê ÿ òàì â "áàíå", ïîýòîìó îòâå÷ó çäåñü.

Ñâåò, áîëüøàÿ ïðîñüáà íå ïåðåíîñè íà íàø ôîðóì ÷óæèå ïîñòû. Êòî çàõî÷åò, ñàì çàéäåò è íàïèøåò.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 12.07.10 15:21. Çàãîëîâîê: Bonalee Òàíü,ïðîñòè...

Bonalee Òàíü,ïðîñòè. Íå ñìîãëà óäåðæàòüñÿ,âñå òàêèå "áýëûå è ïóøûñòûå"..ïðîñòî "àíãåëû âî ïëîòè"..
"Ïðåæäå ÷åì ðàçáðàñûâàòü êàìíè, íàäî ïîäóìàòü, êàê èõ ïîòîì ñîáèðàòü."
À ùåíà äåéñòâèòåëüíî æàëêî, íå íóæåí íèêîìó ùåí.

 Îòïðàâëåíî: 13.07.10 01:27. Çàãîëîâîê: Bonalee ïèøåò: â äó..

Bonalee ïèøåò:

öèòàòà:

â äóøå ùåìèò îò áåñïîìîùíîñòè.

Òàê âîò ýòî è ñòðàííî - ñìûñë âûëîæåííûõ ïîñòîâ è ïåðåïèñêè? Ìû ÷òî âñå äîëæíû ðâàíóòü íà Óêðàèíó ê Òàòüÿíå ×åðåìåíöåâîé è ïîãðîçèòü åé ïàëü÷èêîì! Èëè âñå ÿðîñòíî äîëæíû ïèñàòü íà åìàéë - ïîìåíÿéòå ñîáàêó èëè âåðíèòå äåíüãè!!!! Ê ÷åìó âñå ýòî???? ×åì ìû, ôîðóì÷àíå, ñîáðàâøèåñÿ íà ýòîì ôîðóìå ñ ðàçíûõ ñòðàí ìîæåì ïîìî÷ü? Ïîìî÷ü ùåíêó, åñòåñòâåííî. Î÷åíü íåïðèÿòåí òîò ôàêò, ÷òî î ùåíêå âëàäåëåö íå äóìàåò âîîáùå - äåíüãè ñòîÿò íà ïåðâîì ìåñòå!
Äóìàþ, ÷òî íà íåñ÷àñòíîé ñóäüáå Ëèâåðïóëÿ, î÷åíü ìíîãèå èçâëåêóò óðîê è ïîäóìàþò - ÊÎÌÓ îíè ïðîäàþò ùåíêà!